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Jaime G

Jeff... You posed the question: "Does the pastor value the Scripture enough to know it in its original languages?" What is the best way to go about learning the original languages if your grad work does not require, or perhaps even offer, courses in them? What, in your experience, would be a good program or method to use? I would love to hear from you on this...

Thanks, Jaime

Jeffrey Garner

To qualify this remark, these are the things that I personally would want if i were looking to submit myself to a local pastor and church. Part of my reasoning is rooted in the fact that much of my study was in languages so i have come to appreciate the Bible in a whole new way. Its more than knowing what verses actually say and goes to the heart of sincere appreciation for the Sacred Text. It includes a way of thinking, a humility associated with understanding the latitude of meanings and thought.

Now to your question. Is there a synagogue in your area that offers a look at Hebrew? There are course you can take from seminaries that offer online components to learning biblical languages. You can also audit biblical language courses at most seminaries in your area. This very inexpensive and gets your hands on the text. I would recommend for Greek finding a good book on Greek that covers the Gospel of John and start there. Even if you never learn it fluently if you can learn it enough to respect it and embrace the humility that comes from accepting that you dont know everything about the Bible.

I would recommend D.A. Carson's Exegetical Fallacies; Page Kelley's Biblical Hebrew an introductory grammar. William Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek as places to start.

Justin Proulx

Hi Jeff,

I'm in your Disciple class at Western. A few years ago my church added a second campus and the head pastor (an MDiv PhD) is the main site pastor for the other campus. Our pastor is a very educated English major, and he has enough reference books to access the Greek and Hebrew, but he's not been through a seminary course on the materials. In your point above, where you suggesting that only a master's program worth of study is displaying the correct respect for the languages and text?

Thank you,
Justin

Roger Yadon

Jeff,
I really enjoyed this post.

you mentioned five elders in your life. do you feel it is necessary to have a mentorship/discipleship agreement with these men? or can it be a casual voice?

There are elders in my life that i seek guidance from, but they probably don't know it.. kinda like that 6th grade girlfriend. lol. should they be aware that they are on my life council? or is it ok to have a casual mentorship?

there is a local church here that has all of the five fold ministers. each with their title and picutre on the back wall. it all seems so freakish to me, is this what you mean? each in their assigned seat? or a couch where they can come sit when time and circumstance permits?

Jeffrey Garner

It depends on what stage you are at in your life. These men have been a source of strength and have a voice in my life. I think we all need a discipler/spiritual director. It will make us better followers of Christ. I would let these men know. It can add so much to your experience in ministry and life. I am not into the freakish couch slouching cozy covering thing. It then gets away from the relationship and becomes somekind of weirdness.

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